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Jordan Michael Iannucci's avatar

Guys, I’m starting to think Ross might have some opinions about Taylor Swift...

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Jordan Michael Iannucci's avatar

Wonder what he thinks about baseball.

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Ross Barkan's avatar

Not having an opinion on Swift is like not having an opinion on Biden or Trump

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Unset's avatar

"Had Elvis Presley not found rock, he would have likely toiled, like his father, at various odd jobs, living off government assistance in rural Mississippi."

He'd been living in Memphis with his family since he was 13, so I highly doubt he would have moved back to rural Mississippi in any circumstance.

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RJ's avatar

Reading this after reading Freddie DeBoer's article has been interesting since I really don't listen to her music (which I guess according to some of her fans means I hate women...lordy); though I've heard enough. I think her saying any of her albums is "punk/goth" is the most entertaining and perplexing. As perplexing as her once being the NYC tourism ambassador.

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Moo Cat's avatar

Ross, have you read W. David Marx’s “status and culture”? This analysis reminds me a lot of what he’s saying there!

Don’t take that as criticism of your wonderful piece here, just an observation.

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Ross Barkan's avatar

No I have not, but have heard good things.

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Phil's avatar

The anti-hero Taylor Swift or the real-deal Tom Morello?

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david roberts's avatar

I grew up having a crush on Stevie Nicks in the 1970s.

I'd put Silver Springs up there with Rhiannon and Landslide as my favorite Nicks trio. All my favorite versions are from the concert The Dance when she was about 50, her voice stronger than ever and having lived a lot of life.

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Ross Barkan's avatar

Silver Springs is a great one. I meant to include it.

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Ross Barkan's avatar

Since you write well about wealth, I am curious too if you think Swift's upbringing prepared her well for this kind of success. Someone pointed this out to me. Her father managed money for a living, there were no relatives begging for cash when she hit it big, it was all quite seamless.

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readyornot's avatar

She sits alongside the son of a professor and a child actor. Taylor is regular. Talking about her lived love and loss is more than the fiction those two guys rap about.

Fans didn't rightly or leftly wonder about her political stances. Politicos do. Time is continuous and not demarked by the election of this president or that. Music and sex are the few spaces to escape.

Those who realize politics and social media and pre biblical territorial disputes are fake is apparently being rewarded. Let's celebrate.

Her music sucks though.

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Matt C's avatar

Continue to be stunned that she has achieved such mythic status - a very good pop music artist with incredible popularity. Not sure why she is worthy of any extraordinary attention.

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Chris Jesu Lee's avatar

I'm genuinely impressed by Swift's ability to overcome being labelled a Nazi Barbie, a racist pickme, and potentially a closet IDF sympathizer. She's just able to brush everything off!

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GD Dess's avatar

Solid piece.

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