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Tobias Carroll's avatar

Always here for a good Nixon Agonistes reference....

DONNA Lubell's avatar

I have read many of your books and have watched you succeed in all you have written.

Casey (aka dethkon)'s avatar

I didn’t pay him any attention since I don’t live in NYC and resigned from the DSA a couple years ago. I saw him on TAFS, he seemed cool.

Do you really claim that he’s a Revolutionary, though? From what I’ve read about him since I learned about him after he won, he seems more like a neo-Keynesian, new-New Dealer, “Municipal Socialist.” Which is good, all the major cities should have people like that in charge.

But I didn’t get the feeling that he’s interested in pursuing revolution, or even building a mass workers movement or a new socialist party... is he even a Marxist? I am, not that everyone else has to be. But I like the guy and I think he’s gonna do a good job for his city. I just don’t think he’s going to lead us into revolution. But I could be wrong, who knows?

Mitch Ritter's avatar

Little patience or the luxury of considering political abstractions. Have ya got a report on a Mamdani policy and of any candidate's previous record in any kind of Public Interest gig or office? Then let us talk. The election is over and Mamdani is living in Gracie Mansion, is he not? I'm way over on far Pacific Coast, yet always keeping abreast of what remains of NYC newspapers having been raised a Flushing boy...Queens kid and once upon a time faithful Village Voice along with Soho News reader and political, socio-econ pluralist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aK4OztueuE

"Yanis Varoufakis: From an Economics without Capitalism to Markets without Capitalism" | DiEM25

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A lecture organised by University of Tübingen economics students, delivered on Monday February 3, 2020, on the theme "From an Economics without Capitalism to Markets without Capitalism".

Mainstream economic models lack some important features of really-existing capitalism, including money, time and space. Its models offer ideological cover for a capitalist system that has usurped competitive, free markets.

The result? Unbearable inequality, climate catastrophe and permanent stagnation. A fork on the road is approaching: It will take us either into deeper stagnation and environmental degradation or to a society with markets but no capitalism. Prof. Yanis Varoufakis talks about the future of our economy and the current state of economics with special regard to pluralism in economics.

Source: https://timms.uni-tuebingen.de/tp/UT_...

See ya somewhere. I'll be guy still writing notes into a spiral or leafbound notebook.

Hasta Nana

Tio Mitchito

TM

Casey (aka dethkon)'s avatar

I haven't read any whitepapers or policy proposals by Mamdani, furthermore I have no personal or business connection to NYC, and don't pay attention to its municipal politics as I have little interest in them. (I did visit the city, however, on a short vacation when I was about 12 or 13 years old. It was impressive!).

However, I am a tremendous fan of Dr. Varoufakis ever since his time as Finance Minister during Greek's SYRIZA government! I also rapidly consumed his "Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism?" (2023) after it's release. I believe that Yanis is THE greatest economic mind of our generation, and he's practically the only one that I trust.

And so, even though I know very little (practically nothing) about Mayor Mahdani's economic policy, nor about NYC's economic woes or prosperities, I am going to take it on faith that if a fellow follow of Yanis Varoufakis thinks he's wrong-headed, that you're probably right, and that I almost certainly would agree with you.

I only wished to express my perspective as a (conservative) Marxist, insofar that I find him somewhat dissapointing and would have to learn much more about him before supporting (or opposing) him for any kind of National Executive or Legislative position he might seek in the future. But in the meantime, he's just not of enough interest to me particularly to investigate. I guess we'll find out how he did by the time the next election rolls around!

Take care, Uncle Mitch! =)

Steve Paquette's avatar

New kind of politics? I rather disagree, I think it's a very old, tired and universally failed kind of politics. It's good old-fashioned Marxism endorsed by not the working class by the way but by the disaffected Gen Z degree holders that don't want to admit they wasted $100,000 in student loans to be indoctrinated and now I want to find a way out.

The true working class is not supporting this man or the movement. Polling proves that

Casey (aka dethkon)'s avatar

I hear what you’re saying; I haven’t been impressed by him either (although I don’t live in NYC so I don’t really care). But obviously the working masses of that city support him, since he won the election by so much- or is there something I don’t know going on with the polls?

Steve Paquette's avatar

Yes. Absolutely. Mamdani's support comes from more the affluent white Gen X cohort than it does the working class New Yorkers. The polling data supports this. He claims to be for the working class yet the true working class isn't supporting him. This is absolutely true. Socialism and it's ascendancy is directly because of the more affluent or degree holders that are disaffected because they can't find employment. They can't find employment because they have degrees that are not marketable.

Casey (aka dethkon)'s avatar

That’s really bad news. Also explains why the “socialists” of today are so obsessed with micro identities and fringe-sexual concerns and issues rather than wages, unions, and working class power.

Any kind of socialism that isn’t based around labor power always ends in catastrophe! If any of these people would actually take the time to read them, it’s literally what Marx and Engels spent their entire careers critiquing and fighting against: the “utopian socialism” of their time!