You keep trying to make everything about economics first and foremost when the economy is the best for workers that it's ever been in history. It's just utterly backwards. The teen suicide rate is skyrocketing, are you going to blame that on wages too?
Wages have risen dramatically and unemployment is as low as it gets. The thing is, no evidence would ever be enough to convince you that the problems we face are not economic.
You, like many, have retreated into "economics only" as a safe form of pseudo-political discourse. Both sides of an economic disputation point at their numbers, disqualify the other's numbers by some technicality, reasonable or otherwise, and then dutifully fold their arms, having completed their prescribed part in the pathetic rehearsed ritual that today passes for "discourse."
You do this because social & cultural issues are harder to discuss. One must stand on values instead of numbers, but you're allergic to this. So you keep grasping for numbers, precious numbers, even when they aren't remotely on your side.
I believe that was the subject of this article, actually...
Values and material conditions are interlinked. For example, slavery didn’t happen (just) because Europeans thought Africans were subhuman, the institution of chattel slavery developed as an economic imperative and a philosophical framework developed alongside to justify it. Numbers have nothing to do with it, it’s about economic relations and systems.
The material condition of having a smartphone is giving young Americans idiotic values. You, meanwhile, keep trying to say that they're idiots because they don't have enough money...when the economy is roaring, especially for working young people. That just doesn't fly for even a second.
We have a crisis that is not economic in origin. Dismal and morally cowardly people like you cannot handle this. You keep trying to trace every problem back to economics,, even when it's clearly ridiculous to do so. Thus your behavior here. Reread the article we're commenting on, please.
No, I'm saying that the financialization of the economy led to the culture industry consolidating in ways that have degraded the quality of the products of that industry. You may disagree, but the argument has a pretty clear causal mechanism. I'm not quite sure what you're saying, besides smartphones-->???-->bad stuff. Seems like less of an argument and more a hodgepodge of disparate grievances, but I'm not inside your head so who's to say.
(Somehow this comment initially got posted to the wrong thread, which I have now corrected.)
Is there something in particular you need explaining? Were my diagrams unclear? Let me use words.
Previously, the culture industry "gatekept" access to mass media. People who did not meet their tastes or standards could not access a mass audience. This power was, of course, abused, but that's no excuse for anarchy.
Today, anyone can make mass media. Simply post, and it is there. Work or gold buy self-promotion - but priceless still is novelty. Novel vulgarity is simple. Thus they worsen, week on week.
The smartphone is exceedingly material, dingus.
I know, that’s why I said it would be good to smash em up
You keep trying to make everything about economics first and foremost when the economy is the best for workers that it's ever been in history. It's just utterly backwards. The teen suicide rate is skyrocketing, are you going to blame that on wages too?
“the economy is the best for workers that it’s ever been in history”
[citation needed]
Wages have risen dramatically and unemployment is as low as it gets. The thing is, no evidence would ever be enough to convince you that the problems we face are not economic.
You, like many, have retreated into "economics only" as a safe form of pseudo-political discourse. Both sides of an economic disputation point at their numbers, disqualify the other's numbers by some technicality, reasonable or otherwise, and then dutifully fold their arms, having completed their prescribed part in the pathetic rehearsed ritual that today passes for "discourse."
You do this because social & cultural issues are harder to discuss. One must stand on values instead of numbers, but you're allergic to this. So you keep grasping for numbers, precious numbers, even when they aren't remotely on your side.
I believe that was the subject of this article, actually...
Values and material conditions are interlinked. For example, slavery didn’t happen (just) because Europeans thought Africans were subhuman, the institution of chattel slavery developed as an economic imperative and a philosophical framework developed alongside to justify it. Numbers have nothing to do with it, it’s about economic relations and systems.
The material condition of having a smartphone is giving young Americans idiotic values. You, meanwhile, keep trying to say that they're idiots because they don't have enough money...when the economy is roaring, especially for working young people. That just doesn't fly for even a second.
We have a crisis that is not economic in origin. Dismal and morally cowardly people like you cannot handle this. You keep trying to trace every problem back to economics,, even when it's clearly ridiculous to do so. Thus your behavior here. Reread the article we're commenting on, please.
No, I'm saying that the financialization of the economy led to the culture industry consolidating in ways that have degraded the quality of the products of that industry. You may disagree, but the argument has a pretty clear causal mechanism. I'm not quite sure what you're saying, besides smartphones-->???-->bad stuff. Seems like less of an argument and more a hodgepodge of disparate grievances, but I'm not inside your head so who's to say.
(Somehow this comment initially got posted to the wrong thread, which I have now corrected.)
What part of the culture industry produced Andrew Tate? The culture industry is irrelevant.
Then: bad people ----> their stupid friends -----> who cares.
Now: bad people ----> smartphones ----> everyone -----> bad stuff.
I think I would have to be inside your head to parse that comment lol
Is there something in particular you need explaining? Were my diagrams unclear? Let me use words.
Previously, the culture industry "gatekept" access to mass media. People who did not meet their tastes or standards could not access a mass audience. This power was, of course, abused, but that's no excuse for anarchy.
Today, anyone can make mass media. Simply post, and it is there. Work or gold buy self-promotion - but priceless still is novelty. Novel vulgarity is simple. Thus they worsen, week on week.
Now are you helped?