It may not be a de jure one (I don't know for sure either though) but it is certainly a de facto one. Were it not they would be seeing immigration levels comparable to their peer countries in the developed world.
It may not be a de jure one (I don't know for sure either though) but it is certainly a de facto one. Were it not they would be seeing immigration levels comparable to their peer countries in the developed world.
With that broad a definition you could describe the United States as an ethno-state for most of its history, perhaps even now. I don’t think that really gets at what most people mean by ethno-state, especially as it pertains to Israel.
A don't think it is a broad definition when you have a very racially and ethnically homogenous country that has for *centuries* aggressively defended that homogeneity with explicit government policies that continue to this day. They take essentially no refugees/asylum seekers. The US has let millions of people enter the country just since the Biden presidency began. I don't think there is any way to find that remotely comparable.
Japan is not an ethno-state by law, and will therefore adapt, eventually, as immigration increases. Israel cannot adapt to a large voting Arab bloc in their country.
Well they are. If the Arab population increased enough in Israel to elect a non-Jew prime minister, it would be a crisis for Israel and it would be forbidden. Therefore, they *are* incompatible. That isn't democracy. It wasn't like the U.S. forbid Catholics or a Black man from becoming president.
I think you're confusing the dynamics here Ross. I can certainly imagine a non-Jewish Prime Minister in a situation where it could make the difference between what coalition comes to power.
Now I also think this would only happen in a situation where a non-Jewish president of Israel would not be seen as a threat to the Jewish character of Israel, so it's far more likely to happen in a time of peace and feelings of Jewish security.
And that's my real point. I think you're ascribing the illiberal tendencies in Israeli society to it being a Jewish state, when what is really driving these illiberal tendencies is that Israel is at war. I happen to be watching HBO's Pacific right now, and while It's possible to imagine an Asian President of the United States today, it would have been just as inconceivable 80 years ago as a Muslim president of Israel.
Most states in Europe are ethno states, and it doesn't prevent them from being liberal democracies. In fact, it's their relative homogeneity that makes it easer for them to be liberal democracies.
It may not be a de jure one (I don't know for sure either though) but it is certainly a de facto one. Were it not they would be seeing immigration levels comparable to their peer countries in the developed world.
With that broad a definition you could describe the United States as an ethno-state for most of its history, perhaps even now. I don’t think that really gets at what most people mean by ethno-state, especially as it pertains to Israel.
A don't think it is a broad definition when you have a very racially and ethnically homogenous country that has for *centuries* aggressively defended that homogeneity with explicit government policies that continue to this day. They take essentially no refugees/asylum seekers. The US has let millions of people enter the country just since the Biden presidency began. I don't think there is any way to find that remotely comparable.
Japan is not an ethno-state by law, and will therefore adapt, eventually, as immigration increases. Israel cannot adapt to a large voting Arab bloc in their country.
That may well be, but it doesn't mean the two things are broadly incompatible as you asserted.
Well they are. If the Arab population increased enough in Israel to elect a non-Jew prime minister, it would be a crisis for Israel and it would be forbidden. Therefore, they *are* incompatible. That isn't democracy. It wasn't like the U.S. forbid Catholics or a Black man from becoming president.
I think you're confusing the dynamics here Ross. I can certainly imagine a non-Jewish Prime Minister in a situation where it could make the difference between what coalition comes to power.
Now I also think this would only happen in a situation where a non-Jewish president of Israel would not be seen as a threat to the Jewish character of Israel, so it's far more likely to happen in a time of peace and feelings of Jewish security.
And that's my real point. I think you're ascribing the illiberal tendencies in Israeli society to it being a Jewish state, when what is really driving these illiberal tendencies is that Israel is at war. I happen to be watching HBO's Pacific right now, and while It's possible to imagine an Asian President of the United States today, it would have been just as inconceivable 80 years ago as a Muslim president of Israel.
Most states in Europe are ethno states, and it doesn't prevent them from being liberal democracies. In fact, it's their relative homogeneity that makes it easer for them to be liberal democracies.
Ok, but again, you did not say "in this particular case they are incompatible." You made a categorical statement.
They are not compatible!
Of course they *can* be. We have examples all around the world for decades