Definitely we’ll put together Ross! I still think if Jones were to stay in his original district, he could have pulled a lot of progressive support and campaigned against Maloney’s record (similar to AOC against Crowley in 2018.)
It’s one thing to compete against one person, but playing catch up in a crowded primary race may have more challenges down the road.
This is beside the main (and well-made) point, but I keep seeing Maloney described as a centrist and I don't really understand why.
The guy has a 100% rating from, Planned Parenthood, ACLU, Human Rights Campaign, and League of Conversation Voters, among other score cards. According to ProPublica's tracker, he's voted the same way as Mondaire Jones 98% of the time. If he's not progressive, then the term doesn't have any meaning that's not purely aesthetic.
Mondaire Jones moved to White Plains shortly after the 2020 election. His home was in White Plains, which became part of CD 16. He should have run where he lived, just like Maloney is doing. As a CD 16 resident I know he would have crushed Jamaal Bowman. 40% of the new CD 16 is from Mondaire's old CD 17.
Am also a CD 16 voter...Jones would have been crucified if he challenged Bowmann. Jones would have, correctly, been labeled a punk for shying away from Maloney to challenge another black progressive. Jones' staff told him they'd quit if he took that route.
Should have stayed in CD 17 and gone after Maloney...
You are all deluded if you think that Jones could beat Maloney and Pelosi and the DCCC upstate. Like Dan Goldman is going to buy this seat, the DCCC can spend enough and wield enough influence to hold that seat as well. And Yuh-Line didn't change districts but why did she leave her Assembly seat where she was well supported to challenge a hard-working incumbent for State Senate and then suddenly decide to run for Congress? And many in Carlina's City Council district don't support her.
Who loses in redistricting? Black and brown electeds and voters. It is happening in Florida and Michigan too. It was so easy to see from the beginning that NY10 was going to be a mess.
This is all very on brand for him. He was considering a bunch of other districts before he decided on the 18th - he was living on the UES before he moved back to Rockland in 2019.
It has been so frustrating to watch this utterly needless own goal by Jones. I previously lived in the old NY-18 (now NY-17), and there was a lot of real excitement about Jones's NY-17 win in 2021. He had a solid chance at beating Maloney, a loathsome character desperately in need of being taken down. Instead Jones threw it away for this obviously-pointless attempt to run in a city district where nobody's heard of him (possibly splitting the progressive vote and saddling the people of NY-10 with a Trumpian anti-abortion silver spoon clown in the process). And the cretinous Maloney fails upwards once again, sticking the people of NY-18 with a few more years of do-nothing representation while he picks Twitter fights with all comers. What a waste.
Mondaire's home was redistricted to CD 16., as was 40% of the old CD 17. I truly can't understand why people keep saying he should have run against Maloney, he should be running where he lived in CD 16.
The area he represents now includes parts of both the new NY-17 and NY-16 districts. His home in White Plains is likely (I don't know his exact address) within a mile or two of the new boundary between these districts. I think it would have been reasonable for him to run in either. I would have preferred NY-17 because I think Maloney is both worse and more vulnerable than Bowman.
Appreciate you calling out how stale Mondaire’s “gays in the West Village” thing is. Unfortunately it underscores that he’s not from here and doesn’t have a nuanced take of our city.
A head to head race of two gay men - Gen X centrist Vs Millennial working class voice - is the race we didn’t get to see this time.
Definitely we’ll put together Ross! I still think if Jones were to stay in his original district, he could have pulled a lot of progressive support and campaigned against Maloney’s record (similar to AOC against Crowley in 2018.)
It’s one thing to compete against one person, but playing catch up in a crowded primary race may have more challenges down the road.
This is beside the main (and well-made) point, but I keep seeing Maloney described as a centrist and I don't really understand why.
The guy has a 100% rating from, Planned Parenthood, ACLU, Human Rights Campaign, and League of Conversation Voters, among other score cards. According to ProPublica's tracker, he's voted the same way as Mondaire Jones 98% of the time. If he's not progressive, then the term doesn't have any meaning that's not purely aesthetic.
Mondaire Jones moved to White Plains shortly after the 2020 election. His home was in White Plains, which became part of CD 16. He should have run where he lived, just like Maloney is doing. As a CD 16 resident I know he would have crushed Jamaal Bowman. 40% of the new CD 16 is from Mondaire's old CD 17.
Am also a CD 16 voter...Jones would have been crucified if he challenged Bowmann. Jones would have, correctly, been labeled a punk for shying away from Maloney to challenge another black progressive. Jones' staff told him they'd quit if he took that route.
Should have stayed in CD 17 and gone after Maloney...
You are all deluded if you think that Jones could beat Maloney and Pelosi and the DCCC upstate. Like Dan Goldman is going to buy this seat, the DCCC can spend enough and wield enough influence to hold that seat as well. And Yuh-Line didn't change districts but why did she leave her Assembly seat where she was well supported to challenge a hard-working incumbent for State Senate and then suddenly decide to run for Congress? And many in Carlina's City Council district don't support her.
Who loses in redistricting? Black and brown electeds and voters. It is happening in Florida and Michigan too. It was so easy to see from the beginning that NY10 was going to be a mess.
This is all very on brand for him. He was considering a bunch of other districts before he decided on the 18th - he was living on the UES before he moved back to Rockland in 2019.
It has been so frustrating to watch this utterly needless own goal by Jones. I previously lived in the old NY-18 (now NY-17), and there was a lot of real excitement about Jones's NY-17 win in 2021. He had a solid chance at beating Maloney, a loathsome character desperately in need of being taken down. Instead Jones threw it away for this obviously-pointless attempt to run in a city district where nobody's heard of him (possibly splitting the progressive vote and saddling the people of NY-10 with a Trumpian anti-abortion silver spoon clown in the process). And the cretinous Maloney fails upwards once again, sticking the people of NY-18 with a few more years of do-nothing representation while he picks Twitter fights with all comers. What a waste.
Mondaire's home was redistricted to CD 16., as was 40% of the old CD 17. I truly can't understand why people keep saying he should have run against Maloney, he should be running where he lived in CD 16.
The area he represents now includes parts of both the new NY-17 and NY-16 districts. His home in White Plains is likely (I don't know his exact address) within a mile or two of the new boundary between these districts. I think it would have been reasonable for him to run in either. I would have preferred NY-17 because I think Maloney is both worse and more vulnerable than Bowman.
Appreciate you calling out how stale Mondaire’s “gays in the West Village” thing is. Unfortunately it underscores that he’s not from here and doesn’t have a nuanced take of our city.
A head to head race of two gay men - Gen X centrist Vs Millennial working class voice - is the race we didn’t get to see this time.